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# On the First Dialogue of Hylas and Philonous
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The argument that our perception of a 'real world' does not prove its
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existence is not new, of course. Here is a classic statement of a similar argument from
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BerkeIey's *[First Dialogue of Hylas and Philonous](http://www.gutenberg.org/files/4724/4724-h/4724-h.htm)*:
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> Hyl.: Do we not perceive the stars and moon, for example, to be a
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A great way off? Is not this, I say, manifest to the senses? I
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> Phil.: Do you not in a dream too perceive those or like objects?
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> Hyl.: I do.
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> Phil.: And have they not then the same appearance of distance?
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> Hyl.: They have.
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> Phil.: But you do not thence conclude the apparitions in a dream to
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be without the mind?
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> Hyl.: By no means.
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> Phil.: You ought not therefore to conclude that sensible objects are
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without the mind, from their appearance or manner wherein they are
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percieved.
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> Hyl.: I acknowledge it.
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