The jolt-vs-hand-Janet-vs-JVM mandelbrot comparison splits the 15.4x floor into two layers: a Janet-VM floor (~10.8x JVM, optimal while-loop Janet over unboxed doubles — only native codegen moves it) plus a ~1.43x jolt loop- lowering overhead on top. The overhead is entirely the loop/recur -> recursive- closure-called-per-iteration lowering; hand-Janet written the same way matches jolt, while a while+var/set version is 1.43x faster. So a cheap backend win (jolt-v28u) sits above the structural native-codegen lever. Adds the spike artifacts under bench/ and the results writeup; marks the spike done in the handoff. No source changes. Co-authored-by: Yogthos <yogthos@gmail.com>
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Foundational Runtime Epic — Handoff
Epic: jolt-5vsp · Predecessor: jolt-ffn (targeted specialization — concluded) Date: 2026-06-16
This is a cold-start handoff. Read it top to bottom before touching code. Its whole point is to keep the fresh session from re-running the experiments that already came back flat, and to start from the one measurement that actually tells us where to invest.
Why this epic exists
The targeted-specialization epic (jolt-ffn) tried to close jolt's constant-factor gap vs JVM Clojure with per-form compiler passes. Three independent attempts all came back flat:
| Attempt | Bead | Result |
|---|---|---|
| Record field-read guard removal (bare field reads) | jolt-3ko | ~3% on dispatch (shipped #141 — kept for correctness, not speed) |
| Protocol inline cache (runtime, per-method) | jolt-ez5h | ~0% — the per-dispatch gen-check exactly cancels the find-protocol-method saving; find was never the bottleneck |
| Record-ctor descriptor-baking (fewer allocs/record) | jolt-p7fo | flat on binary-trees + broke the gate; reverted |
The conclusion: the gap is structural to jolt-on-Janet, not a missing optimization. Targeted passes remove only the cheap parts; the structural floor remains.
The scorecard (jolt / JVM Clojure)
Regenerate any time with JVM=1 bench/run.sh (the absolute-reference mode).
| Axis | Bench | jolt/JVM |
|---|---|---|
| Pure float compute | mandelbrot |
~15× ← THE FLOOR |
| Persistent collections (HAMT) | collections |
~28× |
| Recursion (call + arith) | fib |
~37× |
| Megamorphic dispatch | dispatch |
~76× |
| Monomorphic dispatch | mono-dispatch |
~109× |
| Allocation / GC | binary-trees |
~314× (≈150× at depth 10) |
mandelbrot is the floor: pure tight arithmetic loops — no dispatch, no
allocation, no collections — and native arith already fires (jolt-3pl). So ~15×
is what jolt's execution substrate costs on the simplest possible workload.
Every other axis adds structural overhead on top of that floor.
Machine caveat: the dev machine swaps heavily (~13 GB). Alloc-heavy benches
(binary-trees, collections) inflate badly; light benches (mandelbrot,
fib, dispatch) are trustworthy. Get absolute alloc numbers on a clean machine.
The four structural walls
- Bytecode-VM execution. jolt's backend emits Janet (a register-bytecode
VM) and runs it on the Janet interpreter loop — no JIT, no native code. Every
op is bytecode dispatch. This is the
mandelbrot15× floor. - Mark-sweep GC. Janet's GC scans all live objects each cycle (no
generations). Live-data + alloc-heavy workloads (
binary-treesretains the tree) pay O(live) per GC. The JVM's generational GC makes young-object churn nearly free. - Indirect calls. Protocol dispatch and fn calls go through indirection
(closures, the protocol registry). The JVM inlines/devirtualizes. jolt's
devirt (jolt-41m) only fires on statically-proven monomorphic sites;
reduce/mapvover a collection doesn't give that proof, so the common runtime-monomorphic case pays full dispatch (that's whymono-dispatchis worse than megamorphic — the JVM inline-caches it to near-free, jolt doesn't). - Boxed / generic representations. Records are tuples
[descriptor field…]; field access goes through a tag guard unless the type is proven. Generic ops carry runtime type checks. (Open question: are Janet numbers boxed? Verify in the spike — it decides whether unboxing is a lever or already done.)
Foundational levers (ranked)
- Native codegen — emit C, not Janet bytecode. The Stalin approach. Compile jolt IR → C → machine code via the system compiler. The only lever that moves the 15× compute floor; could approach C/JVM speed on compute-bound code. Massive (a new backend). Plausible incremental shape: a jolt-IR→C compiler for hot fns with a fallback to the existing bytecode path for unsupported forms — mirroring today's interpret/compile hybrid. Needs to confirm Janet's C-API / native-module story can be targeted incrementally.
- Structural GC-pressure reduction. Value-type small records (avoid heap),
transient/editable-node hot paths (RFC 0003 future work — pvec/phm/sorted are
now tries/HAMT/RB, so O(1)
transient/persistent!via editable nodes is open). Helps the alloc-bound axes (binary-trees,collections). Does not touch the compute floor. - Deeper devirt + body inline. Propagate element/return types so devirt fires on runtime-monomorphic collections, then inline the method body (jolt-4x9 element types + jolt-t6r). Helps dispatch. Bounded ceiling (still bytecode underneath).
START HERE — the spike (DONE — see results)
The spike ran 2026-06-16. Results: docs/foundational-runtime-spike-results.md.
Outcome in one line: the 15.4× floor decomposes into a Janet-VM floor ≈10.8×
JVM (the dominant ~70%; only native codegen / lever 1 moves it) plus a jolt
loop-lowering ≈1.43× on top (cheap backend win — loop/recur is lowered to a
recursive closure called per iteration; emit Janet while+var/set instead;
bead jolt-v28u). Janet numbers are already unboxed (not a lever). Next: the
lever-1 jolt-IR→C spike for one hot fn (confirm Janet's incremental native-module
path first). The original spike instructions are preserved below for context.
Localize the 15× floor. Build three mandelbrot implementations and compare:
- jolt-compiled
mandelbrot(already inbench/mandelbrot.clj), - hand-written Janet
mandelbrot(the same nested loop, idiomatic Janet — write it directly, no jolt), - JVM Clojure
mandelbrot.
Two ratios fall out:
- jolt-emitted-Janet vs hand-Janet → how much overhead jolt's backend adds
over optimal Janet. To see jolt's emitted Janet, use the backend emit path
(
backend/emit-iron the analyzedrun/count-pointfns) — note:aritiesetc. are jolt pvecs, so introspection is awkward; easier to read the emitted Janet via the compile path or just A/B the timings. - hand-Janet vs JVM → the Janet VM's own floor.
Decision:
- If hand-Janet ≈ jolt and hand-Janet is ~15× JVM → the floor is Janet's bytecode VM. Native codegen (lever 1) is the only fix. Commit to the spike of a jolt-IR→C path for one hot fn and measure.
- If jolt ≫ hand-Janet → jolt's backend emits suboptimal Janet; there's headroom in the backend (cheaper, no new runtime). Find what it emits that hand-Janet doesn't.
Also measure the GC share on binary-trees (Janet GC stats around the run —
(gccollect) / gcinterval, or count allocations) to size lever 2 honestly.
Key files / mechanisms
- Backend (IR → Janet emit):
src/jolt/backend.janet.native-ops(~L322) emits native Janet arith;emit-ir(~L674) runs passes then emits. A native-C backend would branch here. - Passes / inference:
jolt-core/jolt/passes.clj(run-passes),jolt-core/jolt/passes/types.clj(inference; the:fnbranch ~L527 now seeds ^Record param hints — #141),jolt-core/jolt/passes/inline.clj(scalar-replace,ctor-shape). - Record representation:
src/jolt/types_protocols.janet—make-record(~L145, the ~5-alloc/record path),record-shape-for(~L139, rebuilds its cache key every call),record-tag. Records are tuples[descriptor field…]. - Dispatch + ctors:
src/jolt/eval_runtime.janet—protocol-dispatch-impl(~L62),make-deftype-ctor-impl(~L382). - Config knobs:
src/jolt/config.janet—JOLT_DIRECT_LINK,JOLT_WHOLE_PROGRAM,JOLT_OPTIMIZE, thectx-shaping-env-varslist (any new ctx-shaping env var MUST be added there and toimage-cache-path). - Self-hosting design:
docs/self-hosting-compiler.md(the kernel/value-layer boundary),docs/rfc/0003-transients.md(editable-node future work).
How to build, run, measure
jpm build # build/jolt (ctx baked, ~20ms startup); from-source is ~8s cold
export PATH="$PWD/build:$PATH"
bench/run.sh # jolt only, WP on
JVM=1 bench/run.sh # jolt vs JVM scorecard (needs `clojure` on PATH)
bench/run.sh mandelbrot 400 # one bench, custom size
JOLT_WHOLE_PROGRAM=0 bench/run.sh # measure what WP buys
Gate: jpm build; janet run-tests.janet (parallel, ~100s; JOLT_TEST_JOBS
overrides). Bench memory hygiene (bd memories bench-isolation-gotcha): never run
a perf matrix while other CPU work runs — it starves later configs and produces
bogus numbers. Sandwich A/B/A.
What NOT to repeat (already flat — see beads for detail)
- Runtime protocol inline cache (jolt-ez5h): gen-check cancels the saving.
- Field-read guard removal as a speed play (jolt-3ko): ~3%; machinery dominates.
(The #141 change is kept for correctness + the
with-meta-on-symbols fix.) make-recorddescriptor-baking (jolt-p7fo): flat —binary-treesis dominated by the live retained tree + GC, not the short-lived intermediate allocs.
Open questions for the spike
- Are Janet numbers boxed? (Lever or already done.)
- Does Janet expose a native-module / C-codegen path jolt can target incrementally (hot fns → C, rest → bytecode)?
- What fraction of
binary-treesis GC vs execution? - Is there a cheaper record representation (Janet struct vs tuple-with-descriptor) that lowers field-read + alloc cost without a new backend?